It was a bit more organised than in Cameroon. There are real shoe factories. Even if we were a bit far from the mark, we had to do a lot of training, for example, I had to spend a year in the factory to design what we sell today. It was a lot of personal investment. Afterwards, in terms of integration, I worked with the workers, I lived with them, we built a team.
Today Sawa is a family. I don't live there all year round any more, I used to go there very often, but now I go there less, precisely because we have this team. It's the only investment we've really made, and to make sure that people feel good, that they come to work happily, without thinking that it will be difficult. We've been in Ethiopia since 2011, and no one has quit, we still work with the same people and everyone is happy to work.